{"id":12738,"date":"2018-10-09T15:21:56","date_gmt":"2018-10-09T07:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/?p=12738"},"modified":"2025-01-14T00:20:58","modified_gmt":"2025-01-13T16:20:58","slug":"mansplaining","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/mansplaining\/","title":{"rendered":"\ud83d\udde3 mansplaining is sometimes (but not always) innocuous"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-twitter wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">My favorite example of mansplaining <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/yrE6ZJhgeZ\">pic.twitter.com\/yrE6ZJhgeZ<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Visa is doing marketing consults (see pinned!) (@visakanv) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/visakanv\/status\/963406812300025856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">February 13, 2018<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>If I had to do a \u201cthe difference between men and women\u201d type of standup set, I think I would focus on the phenomenon of mansplaining, which to me is significantly (but not completely!) an eg of big misunderstanding + language\/communication breakdown<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first thing to appreciate about mansplaining is that to some degree it\u2019s the way that lots of men talk, period. It\u2019s the way they talk to each other, &amp; themselves. It\u2019s the way they go through the world. It\u2019s the way they talk to birds on the Internet<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That said, it isn\u2019t entirely innocuous. I\u2019ve spent years observing, querying, listening, etc and I think it\u2019s definitely true that women get mansplained to more than men. And men seldom realize that this is the case (and will often find a way to deny it if you suggest that it is)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Explaining why that is would probably take like a dozen really careful, surgically-nuanced tweets and I haven\u2019t had any coffee yet so I\u2019m gonna skip that for now<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But my point is that there is a \u201cdifferent languages \/ communication styles\u201d mismatch here going on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A female writer friend was asking for suggestions on how to write a group of jocks discussing a girl, and I <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/visakanv\/status\/1040149175206260736\">came up with this<\/a>, which I think is both accurate and revealing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>it\u2019s a two-way communication mismatch<\/li><li>that said, it\u2019s not as simple as \u201cboth sides are equally to blame\u201d because of a long laundry list of things that disadvantage women<\/li><li>even if it WERE equal blame (it isn\u2019t), the rewards for men who make the effort are so outsized<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Loosely I think of mansplaining as a sort of adversarial horseplay &#8211; it can be fun between consenting peers with a shared understanding of the norms, and it can also be a way to maliciously knock someone\u2019s teeth out with the pretext of \u201cjust playing\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some men question women\u2019s credentials because they think it\u2019s fun flirty horseplay<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some men question everybody they\u2019re interested in, and don\u2019t consciously realise they\u2019re extra interested in women \u201cbecause girl\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Some men just hate women &amp; want to cause them pain and distress<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In my experience, adversarial horseplay with strangers is generally a bad idea. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/visakanv\/status\/975928154073133058\">Here\u2019s an example I think about a lot<\/a>, where an interesting conversation ended because two dudes needed to insult each other<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Don\u2019t wanna single out this particular person, but this would probably be considered an example of mansplaining if the OP was a woman:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1117\" height=\"1200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/mansplaining-to-neil-strauss.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12740\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/mansplaining-to-neil-strauss.jpg 1117w, https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/mansplaining-to-neil-strauss-279x300.jpg 279w, https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/mansplaining-to-neil-strauss-768x825.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/mansplaining-to-neil-strauss-953x1024.jpg 953w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1117px) 100vw, 1117px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Like, you think Neil doesn\u2019t know that it\u2019s good? 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