{"id":3413,"date":"2011-11-24T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2011-11-24T02:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/3413\/dealing-with-depression-in-yourself-or-in-others\/"},"modified":"2023-06-09T18:39:42","modified_gmt":"2023-06-09T18:39:42","slug":"dealing-with-depression-in-yourself-or-in-others","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/2011\/11\/24\/dealing-with-depression-in-yourself-or-in-others\/","title":{"rendered":"Dealing with depression, in yourself or in others"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m always a little suspicious of the &#8220;do whatever works&#8221; argument, because sometimes what works only works within a very specific context and if you get dependent on it and circumstances change, you&#8217;re in for a world of pain- I think it&#8217;s important to error-test your coping mechanism. For example- if you&#8217;re happy because of your talents and achievements, what happens if suddenly you can&#8217;t perform anymore?<\/p>\n<p>I guess it gets really messy when we have people who are neck-deep in shit and they remain silent and stoic, and there are people who moan and groan when it&#8217;s only wetting their ankles&#8230; so it often feels like the playing field is really unfair, like the people who get the attention aren&#8217;t necessarily the ones who deserve it the most.<\/p>\n<p>Some of us may have our opinions coloured by people in great pain who were afraid or embarrassed to seek help , and others have witnessed exploiting it to gain attention and sympathy. Both circumstances seem unjust, unfair, a badly designed situation.<\/p>\n<p>The only way I can see that sort of mess clearing up is better fundamentals- meaning more sincere, honest conversations with ourselves, and each other, and more discussion about how we feel about things, and why we think we feel the way we do.<\/p>\n<p>It definitely is really hard to positively impact someone going through depression, but I think we all got to try. There&#8217;s no therapy better than great relationships with good people, good music and art. We got to show that we care and have faith that it&#8217;ll get through to them eventually.<\/p>\n<p>That said, nobody&#8217;s a one-stop reformation center (or something like that), which is also true&#8230; dealing with someone who refuses to be impacted positively is incredibly frustrating, and even toxic or damaging.<\/p>\n<p>How much can we detach ourselves, to learn to love the person and not take their actions and words personally? It&#8217;s a life-long process.<\/p>\n<p>\u2731<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Nov 2016<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">posted the following on a friend&#8217;s wall, as a response to &#8220;how do extroverts deal with depression?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m an extrovert. I can think of two particular periods when I was depressed- 2007 and 2014\/2015.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">In the first, I had a series of bad events: broke up with girlfriend, did poorly in school, my band started disintegrating, I felt like my parents and family were disappointed with me\u00a0and I just generally felt useless.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I remember going to a local music festival &#8211; and loads of acquaintances said &#8220;Hey Visa!&#8221; &#8211; a band I liked even gave me a call out onstage for writing a review about them &#8211; but I felt utterly, utterly hollow about it all. I remember smiling at a friend and thinking, &#8220;if I died tonight, you&#8217;d be sad for a day, maybe a week, maybe on the anniversaries, but you&#8217;ll say and feel what you need to and go on with your life. I&#8217;m just a background NPC.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">I never cared for suicide though; it always seemed like a copout to me. Too small, not creative, would be forgotten. (&#8220;The red washing down the bathtub doesn&#8217;t change the color of the ocean&#8221;, etc.) I don&#8217;t think I had any particular coping mechanisms. I smoked a lot. I spent many hours online late at night, and I can&#8217;t remember what I did. Probably post on forums and such.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">2014- I had been married, working and a mortgage-paying home owner for 2 years. Life just seemed utterly relentless and it felt like I had no way out. It felt like happiness only came in the smallest of bubbles amidst a vast sea of meaningless struggle. Again I mostly turned to cigarettes, sad music, writing introspective thoughts. I&#8217;d often PM lots and lots of friends and ask them how they&#8217;re doing, and the conversations we&#8217;d have would help me heal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">Sometimes I wonder if I&#8217;m actually an introvert who happens to be exhibitionist and attention-seeking. Though it&#8217;s probably likelier that I&#8217;m an extrovert with some peopling skill deficiencies<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m always a little suspicious of the &#8220;do whatever works&#8221; argument, because sometimes what works only works within a very specific context and if you get dependent on it and circumstances change, you&#8217;re in for a world of pain- I think it&#8217;s important to error-test your coping mechanism. 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