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i finally watched disney\u2019s alice in wonderland (1951) for the first time a few weeks ago. i haven\u2019t yet read lewis carroll\u2019s book. lewis carroll incidentally was the pen name of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (1832-1898),<\/p>\n\n\n\n

it\u2019s hard in present day to be sure of how much precisely the movie influenced things vs the book.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

https:\/\/www.dictionary.com\/e\/slang\/rabbit-hole<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

drugs<\/a> (bbc.com)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150707132059\/http:\/\/www.newyorker.com:80\/culture\/cultural-comment\/the-rabbit-hole-rabbit-hole<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n

what do I want to say about it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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  1. It\u2019s cool that it\u2019s a part of pop culture. it doesn\u2019t feel very \u201cdisney\u201d, and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that it\u2019s very lewis carroll? and most of what we think of as \u201cvery disney\u201d is probably not actually the original vision of walt disney, but downstream of that. though to really answer that question we have to investigate the various epochs of disney<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  2. it\u2019s interesting that the phrase rabbithole has stayed with us, this idea of exploring curiosity<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  3. as an author\/creative i waas very impressed with how a lot of it was structured, up until the end which i thought could probably be better. but oh how easy it is to criticize. i do still think alice in wonderland is a must-watch. something i\u2019ll show my kid someday. which is an interesting… skin-in-the-game list-making. what movies will you show your kids?<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  4. i do want to compare\/contrast it to wizard of oz, which i\u2019m not sure about how i\u2019m gonna watch<\/li>\n\n\n\n
  5. also compare\/contrast with narnia, harry potter, the matrix, but at this point it\u2019s kind of spiralling\u2026 the magic world, the portal, the extraordinary world<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n

    \u2731 <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    live-noting the movie <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    What was happening in 1951
    who was Lewis Carroll
    why did Disney choose to make the adaptation? Walt lived 1906-1966)
    Im kinda reminded of Sephiroth in the original FF7<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u2731 <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u201cIn my world, book nothing but pictures\u201d
    \u201cmy world would be nonsense\u201d
    cats and rabbits in fancy houses
    Flowers with powers and talking\u00a0
    my works would be a wonderland\u00a0
    rabbit who\u2019s late
    So economical, she enters the world within 6 minutes, first 2 minutes were credits\u00a0
    Topsy turveyness of the world is demonstrated while she\u2019s going after Mr rabbit\u00a0
    Curioser and curioser<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Door knob amused by language\u00a0
    Too big for the door
    Locked
    Key left on the table\u00a0
    use of perspective to show her big
    Cries
    Falls into bottle\u00a0
    Sailors life for me
    Ahoy and other nautical expressions
    started tomorrow will finish yesterday\u00a0
    12 mins rabbit again\u00a0
    Tweedledee tweedledum
    Beginning backwards\u00a0
    How do you do, shake hands, state your name and business
    looking for rabbit, curious where he\u2019s going
    The oysters were curious too
    what happened to the oysters? Story within a story,
    Walrus and carpenter\u00a0
    Shoes and ships and ceiling wax and cabbages and kings
    Callow callay no work today
    Walrus pied piper\u00a0
    20m end of oyster story
    they start reciting another story but she goes off \u2013 artful incompleteness, lived-in world
    21 rabbit again, the house\u00a0
    another embiggening cookie
    Why does rabbit call her Mary Ann\u00a0
    Lizard with a ladder
    Burn down the house
    Rabbit runs into forest
    Flowers
    Bread-and-butterflies
    flowers very opinionated about the songs\u00a0
    \u201cwhat kind of garden do you come from?\u201d
    Genus humans Alice
    I\u2019m not a flower
    A weed
    I\u2019m not a weed \/ you wouldn\u2019t expect her to admit it
    flowers wash hr\u00a0 away<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    AEIOy smoke<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    3 inches is such a wretched height<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Cheshire at midpoint<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Unbirthday, tea party, smoke<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Tell us the story – functions as a recap for the audience <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u201cI have an idea, let\u2019s change the subject\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Why is a raven like a writing desk?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Riddles?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Clock is two days slow<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Watch is full of wheels<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Stupidest tea party<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u201cI\u2019ve had enough nonsense, I\u2019m going home\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u201cThat rabbit, Who cares where he\u2019s going anyway\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    It\u2019s getting dark and nothing looks familiar<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    A shovel bird<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    52m would be nice if something made sense for a change <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    don\u2019t step on the mome raths<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    A path<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Dog brushing away the path<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    When one\u2019s lost, good advice to stay where you are until someone finds you<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    If I listened earlier I wouldn\u2019t be here<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    But that\u2019s the trouble with me<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    I give myself good advice but seldom follow it<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    That explains the trouble I\u2019m always in<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    be patient is good advice but waiting makes me curious<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    there\u2019d be a price to pay some day<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    she cries and all the weird eonderland clearers gather and cry to <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Will I ever learn to do the things I should <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Moon becomes chrfhire cat <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    I wanna go home but can\u2019t find my way<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    You have no way, all ways are the queens ways<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    shortcut to the kingdom <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Through the maze<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Painting the roses red<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Each of us would quickly lose his head<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    What do the cards mean<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Queen is the first person to say \u201cit\u2019s a little girl\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    tedious courtly behaviors<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    The croquet game<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    A trial<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Calling up the old characters <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Dormouse <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    \u2731 <\/p>\n\n\n\n

    Why Alice in Wonderland is one of fashion\u2019s most enduring muses<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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