{"id":13766,"date":"2018-03-24T20:11:00","date_gmt":"2018-03-24T20:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/?p=13766"},"modified":"2023-05-24T20:11:36","modified_gmt":"2023-05-24T20:11:36","slug":"timing-like-a-state","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/2018\/03\/24\/timing-like-a-state\/","title":{"rendered":"timing like a state"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We have colonized time just the way we have colonized space \u2013 and our wild, natural rhythms are in a sense contained and imprisoned by the structure of everyday life (workweeks, vacations, etc). We inherited this without much choice or say in the matter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Intro \u2013 talk about why this matters, why this is interesting<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There are some things about the world that we inherit that most of us are unlikely to question seriously. Why do we use clocks? Why do we use calendars?&nbsp; Why are there 24 hours in a day? The Earth takes about 365.25 days to orbit the sun, that\u2019s a year.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why do we typically have a 5-day work week? Why is the traditional job described and considered \u201ca 9 to 5\u201d? Consider phrases like \u201cI\u2019m on the clock\u201d, \u201cdo it on your own time\u201d. How do we think about holidays and sabbaticals, and parental leave. Gap years.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We have inherited a very narrow, specific way of looking at time. And if you think about it, it\u2019s quite improbable that this was designed for optimal human flourishing. Rather, it was likely designed for the convenience<em> <\/em>of the ruling class \u2013 and this can often be inconvenient or outright unhealthy to the masses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(By the way, why is it 2018? Kurzgesagt makes a compelling case that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=czgOWmtGVGs\">we should add 10,000 years to the calendar<\/a> \u2013 the point being to recontextualize the present moment in a hopefully more universal human history.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Recap seeing-like-a-state \/ existing ribbonfarm context<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ribbonfarm.com\/2010\/07\/26\/a-big-little-idea-called-legibility\/\">A Big Little Idea Called Legibility<\/a>, Venkat talks about James C Scott\u2019s book Seeing Like A State \u2013 how the bureaucratic impulse for Legibility has a way of replacing functional disorder with orderly dysfunction.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>\u2018scientific forestry\u2019 \u2013 when you try to increase lumber yield by planting trees in tidy rows, you ruin the ecosystem.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Urban planning \u2013 Jane Jacobs\u2019 The Death And Life Of Great American Cities describes how a similar process systematically sucks the life out of cities<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-3.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"770\" height=\"327\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-3.png?resize=770%2C327&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13767\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-3.png?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-3.png?resize=300%2C128&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-3.png?resize=768%2C326&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The above, taken from SlateStarCodex\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/slatestarcodex.com\/2017\/03\/16\/book-review-seeing-like-a-state\/\">book review of Seeing Like A State<\/a>, compares the street maps of Bruges (a premordern organic city) with Chicago (a modern planned city). You see how Bruges looks \u2018natural\u2019, like veins on the underside of a leaf, while Chicago looks like a harsh grid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Disorderly, orderly. Illegible, legible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From the review:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Henry Ford\u2019s assembly lines<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Taleb\u2019s \u201cHarvard-Soviet Complex\u201d of central planning, and criticism of \u2018soccer moms\u2019 who overplan and overschedule and overmanage their childrens\u2019 lives<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Thinking about time<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now\u2026 consider what your schedule looks like. If you\u2019re born in a modern city, you\u2019re conditioned to think about time in terms of years, days, hours, minutes, seconds. This seems normal, but it\u2019s really just one way of seeing. There are alternate ways of seeing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"770\" height=\"365\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4-1024x486.png?resize=770%2C365&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-13768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4.png?resize=1024%2C486&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4.png?resize=300%2C142&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4.png?resize=768%2C364&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/image-4.png?w=1338&amp;ssl=1 1338w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 770px) 100vw, 770px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Here\u2019s a thing I think about \u2013 it\u2019s fairly easy to imagine what life in the wilderness is like, spatially. We can watch Netflix documentaries about people living in the forests. (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Human_Planet\">Human Planet<\/a>. It\u2019s really good, just to see that there are different ways of being than being a heavily-scheduled city rat.)&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But I think it\u2019s a lot harder to imagine what <em>wild time <\/em>is like. Maybe I\u2019m projecting here, idk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Summary \/ bits from Sideways Look At Time<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cCow-time vs clocktime\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>_<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quotes<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt only had to do with how it felt to be in the wild. With what it was like to walk for miles for no reason other than to witness the accumulation of trees and meadows, mountains and deserts, streams and rocks, rivers and grasses, sunrises and sunsets. The experience was powerful and fundamental. It seemed to me that it had always felt like this to be a human in the wild, and as long as the wild existed it would always feel this way.\u201d \u2013 Cheryl Strayed, Wild<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Links to consider \/ possibly integrate<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>People used to sleep twice: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/magazine-16964783\">http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/magazine-16964783<\/a> \u2013 &#8220;Don Quixote followed nature, and being satisfied with his first sleep, did not solicit more. As for Sancho, he never wanted a second, for the first lasted him from night to morning.&#8221; <em>Miguel Cervantes, Don Quixote (1615)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Why do we have fixed mealtimes? https:\/\/twitter.com\/visakanv\/status\/945758660679974912<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SilverVVulpes\/status\/881078417868951552\">\u201cJoin me against circadian fascism\u201d<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/2015\/09\/bodys-trillions-clocks-keep-time\/\">Wired \u2013 How the body\u2019s trillions of clocks keep time<\/a><em> \u2013 \u201cAlmost every cell in our body has a circadian clock,\u201d said Satchin Panda, a clock researcher at the Salk Institute. \u201cIt helps every cell figure out when to use energy, when to rest, when to repair DNA, or to replicate DNA.\u201d Even hair cells, for instance, divide at a particular time each evening, Panda has found. Give cancer patients radiation therapy in the evening rather than in the morning and they might lose less hair.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.raptitude.com\/2010\/07\/your-lifestyle-has-already-been-designed\/\">Raptitude \u2013 your lifestyle has already been designed<\/a> \u2013 <em>\u201cBut the 8-hour workday is too profitable for big business, not because of the amount of work people get done in eight hours (the average office worker gets less than three hours of actual work done in 8 hours) but because it makes for such a purchase-happy public. Keeping free time scarce means people pay a lot more for convenience, gratification, and any other relief they can buy. It keeps them watching television, and its commercials. It keeps them unambitious outside of work.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/12\/29\/fashion\/learning-to-measure-time-in-love-and-loss.html\">NYtimes \u2013 Learning to Measure Time in Love and Loss<\/a><em> \u201cI\u2019m constantly aware of lost opportunities. I used to think such lost opportunities were beautiful towns flashing by my train windows, but now I imagine they are lanterns from the past, casting light on what\u2019s ahead.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We have colonized time just the way we have colonized space \u2013 and our wild, natural rhythms are in a sense contained and imprisoned by the structure of everyday life (workweeks, vacations, etc). We inherited this without much choice or say in the matter. 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