{"id":11249,"date":"2016-12-12T23:15:33","date_gmt":"2016-12-12T15:15:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/blog\/?p=11249"},"modified":"2016-12-12T23:15:33","modified_gmt":"2016-12-12T15:15:33","slug":"parents-peers-benevolent-plagues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.visakanv.com\/archives\/2016\/12\/12\/parents-peers-benevolent-plagues\/","title":{"rendered":"Parents, peers and other benevolent plagues"},"content":{"rendered":"<p id=\"31cb\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h3\"><em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">Originally posted on <\/em><a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"http:\/\/visakanv.com\/1000\/0448-coming-of-age\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"http:\/\/visakanv.com\/1000\/0448-coming-of-age\/\"><em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">visakanv.com\/1000\/<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"372a\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">I\u2019ve been reflecting on how people get into drinking and smoking and drugs. And by extension, how my life has come along so far.<\/p>\n<p><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--h4-strong\">Unintended damage caused by protective parents and authorities<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"d5c6\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">When you\u2019re a kid, every parent and teacher and authority will, understandably, tell you what you cannot do, what your boundaries are, what you must or must not do.<\/p>\n<p id=\"1528\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">They will also lie to you or deceive you about a bunch of things\u2013 religion, sex, drugs, alcohol, poverty, death and so on. They do this partially to protect you from the ugly, messiness of reality, and partially to save themselves a lot of grief.<\/p>\n<p id=\"cc80\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">They might have set out with the intention of answering all your questions and telling you the truth of everything, but the reality of parenting is difficult and painful and nobody can do a perfect job. (<a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=BJlV49RDlLE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=BJlV49RDlLE\">Louis CK<\/a> and <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uFQfylQ2Jgg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=uFQfylQ2Jgg\">Michael McIntyre<\/a> have covered this reality humorously.)<\/p>\n<p id=\"80c9\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">A part of them wants to make sure you don\u2019t get hurt. A part of them even wants to keep you cute, simple, helpless. (Paul Graham has written about this really nicely with <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"http:\/\/paulgraham.com\/lies.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"http:\/\/paulgraham.com\/lies.html\">Lies We Tell Kids<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"6e9c\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">When you first discover this, it\u2019s easy to get angry with your parents about this. But as you grow older and begin to have responsibilities and obligations of your own [2], you realize that adulthood is a lot harder than childhood, and that parenthood must be even harder.<\/p>\n<p id=\"1b44\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">So you sympathize with them\u2013 or if they were really, <em class=\"markup--em markup--p-em\">really<\/em> messed up, at best you might understand why they were the way they were, even if you can never quite forgive them. Acceptance is a worthy thing to work towards.<\/p>\n<p><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--h4-strong\">The seductive peers and the (often misleading) promise of\u00a0escape<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"249f\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">In contrast to all of that, the first person who offers you your first cigarette or drink tends to appeal to your independence. They\u2019ll ask, \u201cWhy are you worried about what other people think?\u201d It\u2019s a question you might not have even thought to ask until that point.<\/p>\n<p id=\"6c6d\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">And they\u2019re usually really sweet in those moments. They\u2019ll look into your eyes and treat you like a full person, a full adult, not a child, not an obligation. They seem sincerely interested in you, your struggles, your concerns.<\/p>\n<p id=\"4952\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">It is INCREDIBLY flattering. It goes beyond \u201cWow, you\u2019re pretty.\u201d It\u2019s more like \u201cWow, you\u2019re YOU.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"8b10\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">And so I think when people say yes to cigarettes, to unprotected sex, to staying out late, THAT\u2019S what they\u2019re saying yes to. Every kid knows cigarettes are disgusting. We do scary, dangerous and unfamiliar things because for the first time it seems like someone truly cares about us- not just our grades or our health or the labels on the pedestals they put us on. [3]<\/p>\n<p id=\"46a7\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Some people dismiss all of this as childish rebellion- and yes, it is. But it\u2019s so much more than that, too. It\u2019s a naive, ignorant and tentative step towards independence. When do you learn who you are otherwise? When do you learn to live for yourself?<\/p>\n<p id=\"ac04\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Owning a decision is a powerful, heady thing, even if it\u2019s a really stupid decision. Tattoos, piercings, boyfriends, whatever. \u201cI will what I want.\u201d [4]<\/p>\n<p><strong class=\"markup--strong markup--h4-strong\">Moving forward: encourage self-exploration and self-determination in yourself and\u00a0others<\/strong><\/p>\n<p id=\"334c\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--h4\">If all of this is true then we can imagine what the healthier alternative must be like. When adults treat children like people, with their own minds and interests and curiosities. Encouraging them to explore their OWN interests, not just what Daddy wishes he was good at as a child. The parent or authority\u2019s job isn\u2019t to decide for the child outright, but to provide an environment and context in which the child can explore and learn and grow.<\/p>\n<p id=\"387a\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">And here a bunch of nice pictures come into my mind.<\/p>\n<ol class=\"postList\">\n<li id=\"cdc1\" class=\"graf graf--li graf-after--p\">Kahlil Gibran&#8217;s poetry: <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--li-anchor\" href=\"http:\/\/www.katsandogz.com\/onchildren.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"http:\/\/www.katsandogz.com\/onchildren.html\">\u201cYour children are not your children \/ They are the sons and daughters of Life\u2019s longing for itself.\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li id=\"9d47\" class=\"graf graf--li graf-after--li\">A Truly Great teacher who really cares\u2013 the teachers that everybody remembers their whole lives. A football coach and his heartfelt pep talk. That <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--li-anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=V-QQLbqDSdk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=V-QQLbqDSdk\">darkroom scene<\/a> in <em class=\"markup--em markup--li-em\">Boyhood<\/em> with the photography teacher. Robin Williams in <em class=\"markup--em markup--li-em\">Good Will Hunting <\/em>and <em class=\"markup--em markup--li-em\">Dead Poet&#8217;s Society<\/em>.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p id=\"05bb\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--li\">If you have a young person in your life, pay full attention to them and ask them what they\u2019re interested in. And it\u2019s genuinely interesting! Every person is a glorious kaleidoscope of curiosities, shaped by unique perceptions and perspectives. You\u2019ll see the universe in their eyes.<\/p>\n<p id=\"9f15\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">And the scary, terrible thing is that these things can be really fragile. A few dismissive sentences can crush it outright. (See: <a class=\"markup--anchor markup--p-anchor\" href=\"http:\/\/zenpencils.com\/comic\/kevinsmith\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-href=\"http:\/\/zenpencils.com\/comic\/kevinsmith\/\">ZenPencils: Kevin Smith\u200a\u2014\u200aIt costs nothing to encourage an artist<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p id=\"77b7\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">So you have to be really gentle with people\u2019s dreams. Never tell them that they\u2019re stupid or wrong. Just ask them if they\u2019ve thought about X, if they\u2019ve thought about Y, and so on.<\/p>\n<p id=\"7839\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">AND really, this applies just as much to adults too, just that we tend to take a little longer because we\u2019ve often internalized a lot of BS over the years and we forget what we care about.<\/p>\n<p id=\"5bdd\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">So, what do YOU want to do with this precious, fleeting life? I\u2019m all ears.<\/p>\n<p id=\"c272\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">___<\/p>\n<p id=\"6cab\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">[1] Here I find myself thinking about the Rapunzel movie, Tangled. Analyzing this will probably take up an entire post by itself, but really quickly\u2013 it involves a girl being imprisoned in a tower by a woman who pretends to be her mother, and has songs like \u201cWhen Will My Life Begin\u201d and \u201cMother Knows Best\u201d. I\u2019ll probably expand this into a separate essay.<\/p>\n<p id=\"4e8f\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">[2] I have come to believe that it\u2019s important to introduce children to responsibilities and obligations as early as possible. And it\u2019s very important to be precise here\u2013 it can\u2019t just be arbitrary things that parents impose on children \u201cto teach them lessons\u201d. Kids tend to know when adults are simply lording over them. The challenge is to help the kids pick responsibilities and obligations that THEY want, because it helps THEM achieve what THEY want.<\/p>\n<p id=\"8af2\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">I\u2019m naive and ignorant here as a non-parent, but I think even things like household chores could and should be framed in the child\u2019s self-interest rather than just \u201cDO AS I SAY.\u201d After all, there\u2019s a real relationship between parent and child, isn\u2019t there? If the child helps the parent do something, the parent is freed up to do something else, aren\u2019t they? So can\u2019t the parent frame this trade as something ultimately beneficial to the child? But of course, Louis CK and Michael Mcintyre have pointed out that I\u2019m an idiot for thinking that it might be so doable.<\/p>\n<p id=\"2a6b\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">[3] One of the painful parts of growing out of adolescence is realizing that that too is an illusion. That the tantalizing promise of escape is often just a new set of blinders and chains. That\u2019s the truth that our parents and teachers learned and try to share with us, but it\u2019s hard to see that. So I think stories and movies that communicate this effectively are really important. It will be good if this were a part of our broader cultural understanding, something that we appreciated as true independent of our relationships with our parents and authority figures.<\/p>\n<p id=\"e233\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">Here now I find myself thinking about Frozen, where Anna falls for Hans, but it turns out that Hans really just wanted the kingdom and didn\u2019t care about her at all. I think we all know what it\u2019s like to be used by somebody that we thought actually cared about us. Of course, reality is rarely so black and white\u2013 we\u2019re all using each other to some degree, the question is is the outcome mutually beneficial, or is it exploitative and destructive?<\/p>\n<p id=\"3603\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">[4] As we get older it becomes clearer that a lot of youthful interests are driven by peer influence. And that\u2019s quite rational, isn\u2019t it? You\u2019re going to live amongst your peers, so we\u2019re wired to inherit the group\u2019s interests. It\u2019s only a while later that you learn that it probably makes sense to find out who you are outside of the group that you probably inherited rather than chose.<\/p>\n<p id=\"93e9\" class=\"graf graf--p graf-after--p\">There\u2019s a lot to dig into here. We don\u2019t often choose our peer groups very deliberately\u2013 they\u2019re usually chosen for us by circumstance, and we tend to be compelled to stick with them because of \u201cloyalty\u201d or some other instinct or social pressure. One of the best things we can do for ourselves is to be deliberate about the peers we associate with. Again I think parents try to teach their kids this, but they probably often do it in an overly dictated way\u2013 you don\u2019t want to choose for your kids outright, you want to ask them what they want out of life and what sort of friends they think they ought to hang out with.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Originally posted on visakanv.com\/1000\/ I\u2019ve been reflecting on how people get into drinking and smoking and drugs. And by extension, how my life has come along so far. 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